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Point of Order December 17, 1969

Recommittal; beyond scope of bill

Hon. Lucien Lamoureux

Hon. Lucien Lamoureux

Speaker of the House

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<div class="DecisionMain" role="main"> <p class="decision-chapter">Amendments to Motions on Progress of Bills / Third Reading</p> <p class="d-DecisionDate"> <time>December 17, 1969</time> </p> <p class="e-Debates">Journals <a href="https://parl.canadiana.ca/view/oop.HOC_2802_116_01/206?r=0&amp;s=1">pp. 220-1</a></p> <p class="e-Debates">Debates <a href="https://parl.canadiana.ca/view/oop.debates_HOC2802_02/971?r=0&amp;s=1">pp. 2099-100</a></p> <div> <h2 class="f-ContextResoEdNotePostscriptTitle">Background</h2> </div> <p class="g-contextResoEdNotePostscript">During debate on the motion for third reading of Bill C-171, an Act to amend the Company of Young Canadians Act, Mr. Schumacher (Palliser) moved that the bill, which provided for the appointment of a comptroller, "be not now read a third time but be referred back to Committee of the Whole with instructions that they have power to make provision for the dissolution of the Company of Young Canadians". Having "grave doubts" about the proposed amendment, the Deputy Speaker invited the Members to express their views before making his decision.</p> <h2 class="f-ContextResoEdNotePostscriptTitle">Issue</h2> <p class="g-contextResoEdNotePostscript">Is an amendment proposing that a bill be referred back to committee for addition of a specific provision admissible at third reading?</p> <h2 class="f-ContextResoEdNotePostscriptTitle">Decision</h2> <p class="g-contextResoEdNotePostscript">No. The amendment is out of order.</p> <h2 class="f-ContextResoEdNotePostscriptTitle">Reasons given by the Deputy Speaker</h2> <p class="g-contextResoEdNotePostscript">The scope of amendments at third reading is much more limited than at second reading. The proposed amendments must deal only with the particulars of the bill before the House rather than matters not contained in it. This amendment exceeds the scope of the bill and could nullify the original Act.</p> <h2 class="f-ContextResoEdNotePostscriptTitle">Sources cited</h2> <p class="g-contextResoEdNotePostscript">Beauchesne, 4th ed., p. 287, c. 415(1); p. 288, c. 418.</p> <h2 class="f-ContextResoEdNotePostscriptTitle">References</h2> <p class="g-contextResoEdNotePostscript">Debates, December 17, 1969, <a href="https://parl.canadiana.ca/view/oop.debates_HOC2802_02/969">pp. 2097-9</a>. </p> </div>
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AI Summary

A motion to recommit a bill was ruled out of order because its instructions proposed amendments that went beyond the bill's established scope.

AI Analysis

Holding
"A motion to recommit a bill with instructions is inadmissible if the instructions direct the committee to consider amendments that are beyond the scope and principle of the bill."
Outcome
Sustained
Tone
Neutral
Procedural Stage
Government Orders
Significance
Low High

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